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br0thergr1m · Mar 15, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Tatile

BrotherGrim, have you been reading much of this thread? Personal details can be guessed at by the most inane of comments, or even just by how someone acts. Also, many of see no reason to lie about who we are, so if asked a direct question ('Are you a girl?' for example) we'll respond with a direct answer ('Yes.); not to mention that the way some people use words can be found offensive and those who are offended speak out (read back a bit).

Yeah I've been following this thread, I guess I don't "have" the experience of having someone ask me "Am I a girl...Am I British" am I this or that. I'm not saying to lie...thats not the issue. Some people are simply trolling (in game) for trouble. For example....how would I know a certain someone is a female in game by their actions? How would I know someone is homosexual in game, merely by their actions or speech? I'm a bit older (in terms of GW avg age), and no age =/= maturity, so much of how I think is probably outdated.

Tatile · Mar 15, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

While I don't speak for everyone (obviously), most of us don't go looking for trouble, it just happens that people guess, or others have Local Chat on. For instance, I was helping a guy (level 15) through Riholn Refuge and Moddok Crevice (gah, never do that, it isn't fun) and half-way through he asks me if I'm a girl. His reasoning? I was polite.

It just happens, really.

Inde · Mar 15, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Nah, brothergrim (sorry about not using numbers) there's a part of me that wonders the same. I can tell you, that I'm not asked such questions in game and have been following the thread and am really amazed at how many personal details people share online. Maybe I'm just overly cautious. I don't ask the same questions of other people, never really been asked such questions online. In IRC I get the same questions and I joke around or avoid the question (love sarcasm) not really hard to keep those details private actually.

I guess I'm just of the sense that I know everyone has a different opinion, different backgrounds, we come from different environments, and unless I'm prepared not to be overly sensitive about such things then if I choose to share them I choose to hear others opinions on them. Bad and good.

br0thergr1m · Mar 15, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Yeah I see where you are with this and this last post helped me understand. I would guess to say this comes down to how open a person is...both probably in RL and online (social etc). I personally am rather closed online and more apt to listen then to speak in RL. I do agree with you how most people have a hard time accepting something other than theirself.

Turtle222 · Mar 15, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

I start off with a respect level smack in the 40% area. Being gay/bi/black/white/asian whatever will not change that respect-o-meter. Keep on talking about it and the respect level goes down. Focus on the game, and my respect goes up

. Im not saying don't socialise, but get all ethical/political and i start to lose interest. As i said before, i just want to relax and play it

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This is why my local chat is off in shing jea, RA, LA, Droks, Kamadan

Kusandaa · Mar 15, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Inde

I can tell you, that I'm not asked such questions in game and have been following the thread and am really amazed at how many personal details people share online.

I've read something similar in another thread, some guy was in a team with elementary schoolers and they were giving so much info that they could've gone getting them he was a sexual predator. But IMHO, it's not the same. Sure there's some stuff that spark up in idle chat, but I don't reveal every aspect of my life every time - now it's that I'm a Quebecer, the previous time I was studying Japanese, the next time I'm going to talk about... how I prefer colorful clothes than black.

I get questions. I reply truthfully 'cause I have nothing to hide, and I guess I'm not that scared about stalkers from the net. Not the case of my mother, who's very scared about such things because they talk about it on TV (yeah, the TV's aaaaalways right -_-;;; ). Dunno if she realizes it happens much less than she thinks, but even though I let people know in the city I live in, it doesn't mean they'll come after me to beat me up. And this doesn't mean, however, that nothing affects me 'cause I end up giving details...

Rexion · Mar 15, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by Kusandaa

Example of idle convo in a long farming run... :

Guy #1: brb food, wife made BBQ ribs!
Guy #2: gg my wife doesn't cook, I do it all! D=
Guy #3: I don't have a wife, lol. must be good to come back and food's on the table ):
Me: I can't cook to save my life, so my husband does most of the cooking... I BURN WATER... COME ON!!!
Guy #2: you a girl?
Me: No, I'm a gay male o.o.
Guy #3: lol, cool
Guy #2: OMFG UR GAY, UR SICK DUDE...
Me: ...
Guy #2: WOW UR SICK, UR SINNING MAN!!! EW!!!
Me: dude, shut up and kill stuff >_>
Guy #2: UR GAY EEEW... U SICK ****...

I have this convo all the time in PUGs.
I don't prefer to H/H 24/7. I bought GW so I could play Online. But when I play with others.
I have 5:3 guy:girl character ratio.
I play my girl characters more because they have the prettier/bad-ass armor (monk, necro, and ele). Whenever I pug, I'm cheerful and most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character.
When I answer to the "so, are you a girl?" I say "no, I'm a gay guy. I just am flamboyant." 9 out of 10 times, there will be the person that is mighty fine with any sexuality being like "OMG! I WANT YOU AS MY BESTFRIEND <33" and I love that.
But then you also get the people that hate it and flame you with hate speeches.

horseradish · Mar 15, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

I honestly don't mind what the people in game talk about.

It's a waste of time to get emotionally involved in anything online, not only games. *cough cough* Myspace *cough*

I was kicked out of my old guild because my monk's name is Boyfriend of God.

It was stupid, but I'm not angry.

Jelly Doughnuts · Mar 15, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

My alliance once had this guy who kept spamming in the chat about ALL Germans being Nazi's, and talking about boys are to doctors as girls are to nurses, he was promptly kicked for using offensive stereotypes

Koudelka · Mar 15, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by Rexion

I have this convo all the time in PUGs.
I don't prefer to H/H 24/7. I bought GW so I could play Online. But when I play with others.
I have 5:3 guy:girl character ratio.
I play my girl characters more because they have the prettier/bad-ass armor (monk, necro, and ele). Whenever I pug, I'm cheerful and most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character.
When I answer to the "so, are you a girl?" I say "no, I'm a gay guy. I just am flamboyant." 9 out of 10 times, there will be the person that is mighty fine with any sexuality being like "OMG! I WANT YOU AS MY BESTFRIEND <33" and I love that.
But then you also get the people that hate it and flame you with hate speeches.

This almost happened to me today. A friend invited me to clear Sparkfly Swamp in HM (Yeah, I wanted to write my will before even stepping foot there oO) and unexpectedly there was someone else there aswell. He seemed alright, when a few mins in we were (bar myself, who whipped out Shared Burden and ran :P) eaten alive by dinosaurs. At this point he kept saying about how "gay" they were, etc:

Me: Don't you think that's a little insulting?
Him: What?
Me: ... forget it.

Because my other friend was there, the last thing I'd want to do was start the "don't use gay as an insult" argument. I do pick up on it more now, as earlier in the day I told off my guild leader for doing it. :P

Funnily enough no one questions my gender (female chars) or my sexuality (um... yeah?). Personally I would only offer the information if I was really outraged at someone.

Introverted Dimensions · Mar 15, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

My guild is both racist (Aus/NZ only)

Aus/Nz isn't a race.

And there's nothing wrong with an age limit for a guild imo, although it'd be pretty easy to just lie and get through that.

genofreek · Mar 15, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I once had a guy ask me if I was a girl because I remarked that I was getting really terrible drops. I guess he thought I was being selfish, but I was more annoyed that everyone else was getting golds while I got trophies. :P

I tend to be open and chatty because I hate to kill in silence when I finally get groups. I H/H so much; it's just sad.

Death By Ketchup · Mar 16, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10

I don't really get stereotyped. But I only tell people i knew on gw for a while who are good friends stuff about me. Even then its still only general stuff like how old I am, what city I live in,my real name. Some times I get poked fun at for being a Canadian but meh.

Kusandaa · Mar 16, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Death By Ketchup

I don't really get stereotyped. But I only tell people i knew on gw for a while who are good friends stuff about me. Even then its still only general stuff like how old I am, what city I live in,my real name. Some times I get poked fun at for being a Canadian but meh.

Yeah my alliance knows a bunch about me as well, probably as far as my socks' color, lol. I don't care. I get poked fun at being Canadian too (and even worse, French-Canadian!) and tease me a lot 'cause of my strong Quebecer accent. Yesterday I had one literally giggling at how I pronounced "three" :P. Oh and apparently Canadians say "aboot" instead of "about"? NEVER heard "aboot"... .... but I'm guilty of saying "eh?" a lot >_>;;;...

Most of the times I'll laugh at it and joke along, but yesterday I was beyond pissed; they know when to stop most of the time.

Miss Puddles · Mar 16, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

i don't feel the need to announce my gender/race/religion/age/pepsi vs coke preference unless it's brought up in discussion...or i start talking in vent/ts nad everyone goes ZOMG GIRL ON TEH INARWEBZ!!!

does it really matter? probably not.

naughteblonde · Mar 16, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

I rarely talk about my own race/sexuality/religion etc on Guild Wars.
Usually It the less than subtle type of gamers who bring it up working on the assumption that as my character is female, blonde, well endowed and in scanty armor - therefore I must be female, blonde, well endowed etc.
Gotta tell you I get some funny looks when Im out getting the groceries in my Sunspear elite armor...

llsektorll · Mar 16, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

I have this convo all the time in PUGs.
I don't prefer to H/H 24/7. I bought GW so I could play Online. But when I play with others.
I have 5:3 guy:girl character ratio.
I play my girl characters more because they have the prettier/bad-ass armor (monk, necro, and ele). Whenever I pug, I'm cheerful and most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character.
When I answer to the "so, are you a girl?" I say "no, I'm a gay guy. I just am flamboyant." 9 out of 10 times, there will be the person that is mighty fine with any sexuality being like "OMG! I WANT YOU AS MY BESTFRIEND <33" and I love that.
But then you also get the people that hate it and flame you with hate speeches.

im kinda lost.... so are you really gay or just a chick not wanting attention?

anonymous · Mar 16, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by tehlemming

I assume that all girls are bad at warrior.

I've yet to be disproven.

Devona plays a mean hammer.

Koudelka · Mar 16, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Devona plays a mean hammer.

Yes but she does enjoy running across ½ the compass because she saw a red dot.

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im kinda lost.... so are you really gay or just a chick not wanting attention?

I think he made it pretty obvious enough times:

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most people suspect my gender to be the same as my character

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so, are you a girl?" I say "no

Rexion · Mar 16, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

im kinda lost.... so are you really gay or just a chick not wanting attention?

I'm gay.
I was saying... when I'm on a female character, people mistake me for a girl because of my character since I'm very cheerful and say "omg" or "your armor looks amazing :]".